[Historical Note: The Guestbook was originally the most vibrant and controversial part of the site--a place of interaction. Since it involved humans, in particular anonymous immature humans (students)it quickly degenerated into a mudfest of insults and irresponsible emotions which can still be seen below. After a series of death threats following the Vision-Opposition.org 'fratracide' and split issued in this guestbook, the signing feature was removed, making the guestbook a permanent archive by Februrary 1999. Death threats and complete calumny have been removed, but 95 percent of it still remains for your entertainment below.] Welcome to the guestbook. You are welcome to leave your comments, criticisms, and compassion by signing the guestbook. [Image][Image] [Image] Celina - 01/27/99 04:19:52 Are you a UF student/professor?: student Comments: Why do so many of you criticize Daniel so harshly? I neither agree nor disagree with what he says (I am not exactly fond of debates and political arguements) but I don't see any harm in what he writes. It seems that he writes to inform people, not to at empt to brainwash them. Sure he states his opinions, but everyone's entitled to do that! :) Is saying what you think really something to get insulted for so often? [Image] GRITSLA - 01/13/99 02:20:41 My Email:jdixon@centuryinter.net Are you a UF student/professor?: no Referred by: my e-mail Comments: So many tired and over used words or phrases! [Image] Nari Heshmati - 11/08/98 21:25:33 My Email:sanityfla@aol.com Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: the truth Comments: Since the elections, what have you done for the students Danny? Since coming to UF what have you done? Danny you have a great deal of time and energy which could serve a much better use. You must put aside the fact that you lost your bid for a senate seat and move forward in the right path. If you are going to comment on the actions of individuals and SG, don't you believe it is important to attend Senate meetings? Why is it you do not mention on your page that BOM refunded vision ALL of the money which it was fined for the McGovern fliers? Why do you selectively write about events which you have little or no knowledge about? I can only assume that your love of the classics is forcing you to parallel the Greek historian Heroditus--the father of history (also known as the father of lies). [Image] Pat Siracusa - 11/08/98 21:15:13 My Email:Siracusajr@yahoo.com Are you a UF student/professor?: Alumnus Comments: Mr. Grapski, you told the truth so few times during your last entry that a rebuttal would go on for pages, so I won't bother. I am not sure if you are lying or delusional, but good luck getting over whatever has caused your life to malfunction this way. Maybe you and Vlcek can get into group therapy for over-the-hill SG junkies together. Danny, thank you for running an informative page that tells the truth about both sides of the SG struggle. As someone who was involved until 1993(often as a Group Leader), I enjoy reading how things never seem to change. Remember, school should be a fun learning experience. Eventually you need to graduate and just read about what is happening in the Alligator Online. [Image] - 11/08/98 04:54:46 Comments: Why is there no reference anywhere on this site to the vision sen. of the Murphree area??? Editor's Response: Oh, you must mean the ACTION senator of the murprhee area, despite him being slated and winning under the vision label and platform, and switching to a party that the residents voted against 3 to 1. [Image] Daniel Howard - 11/07/98 07:23:48 Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: self (deprecation) Comments: It's been a few weeks since I've posted. Firstly, I want to say, Danny, even though I think you've more or less completely gone round the bend recently, I do like the addition of the criticism $ commentary section; letting the good and the bad pass witho t comment reflects confidence and fairness. Pity the rest of your page starts to stray from that. Second, this is to Charles and Pat: take it outside girls. Surely, surely, surely two men with careers or just sheer age can have something else to do th n nitpick SG. get a football ticket. Go to a movie. Read a book or something. UF's student government, the efforts to reform it, the entire ocean of BS it wades in will all go on just fine... without either of you. I'll stand by my original statement , that no ally of Vlcek's is an ally of UF students, and that the 'Opposition' better get its act together if anything is ever going to get accomplished for the UF Student and their interests in their SG. That is all. [Image] Charles Grapski - 11/06/98 17:08:07 Comments: Mr. Siracusa, As you should well know (and do well know) I have not been convicted of any criminal offense -- and despite your use of Danny to try and portray that -- I have no worry about it. Because I know the facts. I am not a criminal -- an your statement that I am is a mistatement -- as well as quite an immature thing for someone in your position (as well as irresponsible). You have taken on a PUBLIC role -- and it seems quite clear, that the lessons of corruption you learned at UF, you h ve taken with you. You have not grown up, despite having "left school and gotten a job." Mr. Siracusa, you are the lowest of the low. Your reputation is quite well known -- and it is not a good one. You are the very reason I have fought against FBK's orruption, because it produces people like you, who then infect our state and local governments and law enforcement agencies. And other students know the facts as well. I have no problem with that. As for Danny Davis, the reality is you have us d him as a pawn, and he is quite willingly being used (because he does not know what else to do). As for your "influential" role on campus. You were a thug. You were a group leader of FBK and used that position to control and influence students and student organizations. And you knew me more than through the Alligator, although I chose to not speak with you whenever I could avoid it. If you want me to provided documentation -- I could provide quite a bit. The amazing thing is that you think it is a potent criticism that I am 32 and a student. There are many people my age and older who are students. The fact is -- I am getting an education, an education I choose to pursue, and one which is designed to make an impact in intellectual as well as legal and political spheres. My goal is to reform politics and law -- to take away the negative influence of people as unethical and corrupt as you. The allegations that I am wanting to be president of the student body are nonsensical. I have not sought that position except once. My goal is and always has been -- to see to it that UF produces a good quality education, and promotes ethical leadership. That means it stops contributing to your type of political manipulation, thuggery, a d corruption. The amazing thing is -- though -- that in your criticism of me, a REGISTERED student with an actual stake in the ongoing struggles on campus, is that you, an NON student, who has "gotten a job" still wants to PLAY the POWER BROKER/THUG rol you so (very long) played in the FBK Group System. You, sir, are pathetic -- and fall victim to the very criticism you are trying so pathetically to wage at me. FACT: FBK is and has been a corrupt, followership organization, controlled by polit cal "bosses" known as group leaders who often used "thug" tactics. You were the epitome of the FBK "thug" and the very thing wrong with the organization. The very people in your organization who are true leaders, and who are being harmed by the control ver the organization people like you have had, feel the exact same way about you. The sad fact, however, is that someone as corrupt and unethical as yourself is in a position of public trust. That should not be. And it is certainly a stain on t e State Attorney's Office of the State of Florida. [Image] Pat Siracusa - 11/06/98 16:34:28 My Email:Siracusajr@yahoo.com Are you a UF student/professor?: Alumnus Comments: Mr. Grapski, As a prosecuting attorney, I am used to being insulted by the criminal element. Perhaps you could lay out some details on one or two of your wild and untrue allegations against me. As you well know, I have never denied being one of the most influential students on campus between 1989 and 1992. By your standards I was corrupt. Of course, your standard for corruption seems to be an effective leader that doesn't agree with you. I di n't really know you while I was at UF, other than through the alligator stories about your various arrests and incarcerations, but now I know why nobody follows you for very long. You are the tyrant that you always accuse FBK of being. Maybe life will work out for you one day. Graduating and moving on would be a big first step. You are 32 and still worried about trying to be SG president. You need therapy. I think that you are angry because Danny answered those criminal record questions I asked you in my entries 10-7-98 and 10-9-98. See "Charlie Grapski's Jailhouse Rock" on the main page. It appears that Danny isn't very impressed with you now that he knows you better. I am surprised you aren't used to that by now. Good luck sorting through your various problems. Go Gators. [Image] Charles Grapski - 11/06/98 10:17:24 My Email:grapski@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: Student Referred by: Self Comments: Danny, All I can say is I stopped coming to view your page months ago -- and only came after Mr. Siracusa (a current state attorney) sent me another of his harassing emails. Mr. Siracusa, your new ally, is about the most corrupt FBK group leader type in history He has no ethics, no morals, and was responsible for FBK's numerous dirty tricks in his years. He was pure and simple a thug. This, Danny, is who you have now alligned yourself with. And he loves it. You are a pawn -- and dont see why that is a bad hing. As for his current occupation, I believe it is for the Florida Bar to examine complaints made against him, and review his appropriateness for his position; as well as the State Attorney's office to review the appropriateness of his current involvem nt in making certain statements. The real thing that needs to be asked, though, Danny -- is can you not see how pathetic you look? Your page is full of inconsistencies -- you have written for a year about the problems with SG and FBK -- been a vocal critic -- and now, because of what we ill get to next, in order to attack others (including now myself -- who you used to over praise), you actually contradict yourself - and defend SG and FBK. The reason behind all of this, of course, and very obvious to any observer, is that whenever someone is critical of you (for this very trend of immaturity) they become your enemy. And you begin attacking them. This was the trend with Vision, who by the way, you had absolutely NO problem with when you believed they would slate you -- despite the discussions we had stating what the problems were (discussions you later used my words as your own -- "they were putti g party politics over principles." Then, when I criticized your attacks on Vision and persons involved with them, and ceased communication with you (because it was becoming a waste of time) you decided I had to become an enemy. Danny, despite Mr. Siracusa's influence, I do not have to defend myself from him or your attacks. The facts speak for themselves. I have consistently stood up against corruption in SG and FBK. And I have consistently worked in the interest of the Student Body. FACT. I have never been convicted of a crime nor tried for one (despite being arrested - which you do not tell the whole story of, because a) you dont know it; and b) it would not suit your motivations). FACT. As for my electoral record -- FACT, I won my seat in District C in 1989, became Independent Leader of the Senate, and then formed an organized group of independents to inform students and get them involved and to try and reform SG. That group still has its impact felt on campus today -- and we have made many successful changes (although we have yet to change the system completely - wh ch is our long term goal, and remains mine, and we (not you) are seeking to bring that goal to fruition. FACT. The fact remains, that while others did nothing, I stood up -- on my own time, at my own expense, without seeking personal reward or gain. Danny, you are exactly what is wrong with UF. You are a kid, who came to that University, and was taught the wrong lesson. And yes, FBK was part of that, particularly through the influences of people such as Siracusa (who is long since graduated -- yet ypocritically still is quite involved). Mr. Siracusa has no credibility Danny. And when you are his pawn (and he has had many) you have little credibility either. Knowing that Mr. Siracusa reads your site more regularly than those who are working agains the corrupt system and for a democratic system -- and likes it (after all he can see his influence on it) -- should send a message to all (and to you, if you are not blind) that you have gone very far astray. Now that I have wasted 15 minutes with this -- I will leave this site once again, to drift off in Danny's total self indulgent, and pretty much useless, tirade. There is little of interest here. [Image] Dave Halpern - 10/27/98 23:28:17 My Email:bg22446@binghamton.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: Student, State University of New York: Binghamton Comments: Dan--As I've mentioned in my emails, I am quite troubled by the twist of events that appear to be happening down in Florida. While I support the common cause we both have had from the very beginning, I find it upsetting that you would turn against those ho are pushing for the same reforms in SG. Of course there will be differences and of course not everyone is going to get the position that they want. However, that doesn't mean you should just turn against those very people who have similar beliefs in S . As you know, I did that myself and paid a hefty price. I was so infatuated by what party was doing what, I forgot what was important. Please do not do the same thing---get things done for students and do what you think is right. If opposing Vision s something you believe is the right thing, than I am the last person to infringe my beliefs onto. I just hope you remember how hard some people are working to free SG from it's everlasting stranglehold and how far they have come. This has nothing to do with me...I fled long ago and do not regret it one bit...nor do I regret going to UF to begin with...it has definitely given me a diverse perspective on how to see things at my new school. Many people wonder why after over a year I'm gone, do I still kee an eye down there. Why should you care people ask?? It's not so much SG, but what I strive to NOT stand for as a person. SG is just a mere example. After leaving UF, I knew that politics was something I wanted to go into because I knew how cold other politicians could be. Please do not add to the problem of being one of those cold politicians. Good luck in whatever you decide. [Image] Ashleigh Bartkus - 10/22/98 22:47:29 Are you a UF student/professor?: UF student Referred by: you, of course Comments: I am so glad to find such an entertaining web page as yours. You really have outdone yourself! [Image] David Stein - 10/22/98 15:17:30 Comments: This site is very informative on the issues that our student government is facing as of late. Why can't everyone just relax and smoke some weed =) [Image] Alyssa, the Evil RA - 10/17/98 05:18:10 My Email:TACbubbles@juno.com Are you a UF student/professor?: i'm the evil RA Comments: Dear Mr. Davis, I am not allowed to approach you as an RA in any confrontational capacity. I will not violate this policy. Thanks for your concern, and congratualtions on your successful audit :-) Dear everyone else: Hi, I'm an evil RA, therefore I will not be continuing in my position next year, no matter how much I love the Division of Housing. Mr. Davis has proved that I do not belong in my job because I am a 5 foot bully. I have never threatened Mr. Davis. I will never be able to inflict any harm on im because I am a non-violent person and personal vendettas are against my nature. I will, however, continue my participation in the Murphree Area Council and will be reviving their "Saints and Souls" program which was cancelled due to a lack of money. Fo those who care... I'm 5'3 have dark hair and green eyes (not contact len colored) This will be my last signing of Davis' guestbook, as I have lost interest in being picked on. I get enough of that at home by my little brother. Thank you Murphree Council or your continuing support, and to the Student Government and Senate: I think y'all are trying to take care of things the best way you know how. [Image] Nehal P. - 10/17/98 01:03:57 My Email:nehal@gator.net Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: Nari's dating service (every referral earns you money) Comments: Hi, I'm Nehal. I'm a single male. 5'11", black hair, brown eyes. I'm looking for a dark haired girl who is well blessed, firm body. Young female professors are welcome. [Image] Nari "according to Danny I run everything" Heshmati - 10/17/98 00:42:55 My URL:http://niceguy.com My Email:sanityfla@aol.com Are you a UF student/professor?: single, good-looking male student Referred by: the many women who love danny Comments: Hey everyone...I guess I pretty important now that Danny has dedicated the majority of his site to me. I appreciate the vote of support Danny. Everyone please go and vote for me in the hall of stupidity....I plan on winning (and i am tired of logging on o er and over again just to vote for myself). On a final note, for any single women out there--I'm also single. I have green eyes, black hair, enjoy romantic walks on the beach, fast cars, and often hang out at 238 or the gruve. (I'm sure danny can put up pic of me...make sure you get my good side). So, if any ladies are interested out there...just give me an email. (I really like blondes) [Image] Alyssa Whidden - 10/16/98 15:09:51 My Email:TACbubbles@juno.com Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: no one really cares Comments: Does Daniel Davis' personal attack against me and Andrew Poole mean that we have won this battle? I believe that I did nothing to attack his position in Murphree Area Council in my signing of his guestbook. I am a former Area Council Secretary who happens to know more than a thing or two about how to run an area govenrment. Daniel, I feel that this personal attack on my character is against all of your so-called ideals established on your web page. Because of this statement, I invite everyone who reads thi to email me for more information. I happen to be a well informed student, and as Daniel kindly pointed out, a Resident Assistant in Sledd Hall, who happens to have created a personal "conflict" whith Davis because of my being outspoken at MAC meetings an questioning his motives and experience as the MAC treasurer. Daniel, if you have any other personal conflicts with me, I ask that you please bring them to my PERSONAL attention, not via your web page, as I previously did with you. If you are afraid of me which I believe you are, let me inform other readers that I am not a person to be feared and I do not have problems dealing with people as Daniel states. Thank you so much for your support, Mr. Davis. May I assure you that it will be returned ten-fold. Editor's Response: p.s. My "motives and experience" as Treasurer for this area are beyond reproach. For more information about Miss Alyssa, please attend Murphree Area Council general meetings on Tuesdays at 6:30 pm to see for yourself, and be sure to ask all of the Murphree Area residents that know her their opinion on Alyssa the evil RA. [Image] Daniel Howard - 10/16/98 14:16:49 My Email:dhmullen@grove.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: self (loathing?) Comments: For someone so keen on reminding people how 'ad hominem' attacks and insults can disqualify one from conversation, you don't seem to practice what you preach at the top of your guestbook. Aside from an entry long ago by some caps-typing clown, to which y u had a chance to give scathing, witty, sardonic why-even-bother-because-you-obviously-have-no-brain reply and instead answered "That's not what your bitch said last night", you have made yourself out and out rude. John McGovern once told me that "it's not about manners", he was talking about politics, either not understanding that I was talking about a way of treating people, or not understanding the word "manners", I didn't ask. Strangely enough, you are a A+ stu ent in his school, when in response to the last two posts to your guestbook (both critical, but neither particularly insulting) you attacked everything that they said and things that they didn't. Allyssa and Andrew are two friends of mine, and I've just ead everything from people skills to physique called into question in insolent fashion basically because they don't agree with you. A lot of class, you fit into the current SG very well. You could move on from criticism. You could maybe think that mayb people who technically are on YOUR side (if not specific ideology) about student government who have been at UF as long or longer than you might have something valuable to say. Instead, you virulently attempt to defame and attack. The part about insulti g Andrew's girlfriend (another friend of mine, and someone who unlike you, has actually done more in SG than just gripe), that part, whoa man, you sure have the voice that rallies the people, the voice of the opposition. "live free or die?" "I regret I have but one life to give for my country?" no, how about "well, well, say what you want, but your girlfriends just jealous!!!!" very smooth, Danny. Very mature. you are a gentleman and scholar. You are a strong and powerful man. but maybe you aren't. It's not what your bitch said last night. When exactly was it, Danny, that you stopped fighting the better fight? Editor's Response: And the bitch that said to me last night was yours. That'll show you for stealing my lines. [Image] Charles Grapski - 10/14/98 12:47:51 My URL:http://nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu/~grapski My Email:grapski@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: Student Referred by: Self Comments: These are hopefully my last comments on this. Mr. Mullen is right -- enough bickering. And although he includes me in the list, for he fails to understand that I have been trying all along to put an end to that very thing, this is unimportant. The poin is -- that Danny's current focus on the bickering with Vision is not addressing the real problem with SG. That was my point and remains so. It is true, without question, that Vision has failed to be effective in opposition and in bringing about change. This has been a long standing criticism. I have spoken with the members and encouraged them to recognize their errors and refocus their atte tion -- and actually stand up and fight. This is what Danny should be doing. It is what all students should be doing. I hope, in the end, it works. Additionally I have urged others, unwilling to work with Vision, to stand up and fight themselves. Not against Vision -- but against the corruption in SG. Then those in Vision, who sincerely seek the same, would likely stand along side them and fight as well. It is not easy to fight the system -- but nothing protects it more than this sort of bickering. Those of us who share the commitment to ending the corruption in SG need to recognize that when we fight amongst ourselves, not on matters of principle, but o trivial matters, we defeat ourselves. The shame is that Danny's site, until recently, was a much needed and desireable contribution to that struggle. It has been losing impact in that struggle though. I encourage this to change. I encourage Vision to change. And I encourage all the rest o you to stand up and demand a change -- in Danny, in Vision, and in SG and the UF administration's position on SG. The wrong lessons are being taught. And in the end, good people, like Danny, are being hurt. They fail to get the education that they should expect from an institution such as UF. And this should not be tolerated. Two corrections to Danny's site, however. The quote by Vlcek, "nice touch" was not regarding false information that was Brad Bondi's idea. Quite the contrary. It was the comment that Vlcek gave Bondi when Bondi saw that the flier contained false and de amatory information and challenged Vlcek about it. Brad Bondi had NOTHING to do with including that information -- and is the one person present the night they were posted (also there were Vlcek and McGovern) who did the RIGHT thing, reported the inciden , and told the truth when asked about it. The second correction regards McGovern's quote, "Vlcek is evil." This was not a statement "allegedly" made -- but the statement made by McGovern, when confronted by Bondi to do something about the posting of the fliers. McGovern's comments were intended to STOP Bondi from going to the authorities and to KEEP him from telling the truth. In the end, Bondi told the truth, and McGovern lied. Danny needs to correct his captions to those quotes to clarify these points. [Image] Dan Howard - 10/13/98 18:52:18 My Email:dhmullen@grove.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: self Comments: ENOUGH! Bickering is pointless. All of you have irrevocably failed to serve the students of this university at all, and by falling into these minor skirmishes and territorial disputes. It's nothing history hasn't shown us the results of, and it was at east watchable when I saw it in "Braveheart". I'll paraphrase one of the most sharptongued journalists of the 90s, Keith Olbermann of MSNBC when I say "It's official, Student Government is no longer a representative political forum, it is now a college wide parody of the old "who's on first, what's on second" bit. As legislators and interest groups pursue stiffer penalties for those caught in the midst of electoral or political tom-foolery, why not look into penalties for those caught simpy being involved in Student Government. It's not just that the organization and its surrounding parties have lost allo direction and credibility, no, its just that its not even funny anymore" Nari, Danny, Charlie, settle ladies. some student may come across this page and guestbook mistakenly believing that the "Independant" and "Minority" leaders and figureheads are more concerned with students interests than with political infightin , and we wouldn't want to let that cat out of the bag, now would we. I tire of watching this, watching you all picayune hacks sit back and bicker while the current regime perpetrates as many if not more atrocities as they ever have since I've been here. There is no side of "right" in this argument (certainly not one that any ally of Vlcek would be qualified to comment on, Pat). Do you want to no why? Because you have all failed. I have quietly grown outraged by the unmmitigated impotence of the "opposition" (I can hardly say it with a straight face, as opposition can afford neither weakness nor ambivalence), and I'm going to vent now, and hopefully you will just sit, read, have a coke and a $&@*$! grin as I berate all of you. VISION: negative fliers and balking consideration of maybe one day mildly suggesting that perhaps McGovern should possibly be removed from office are not getting it done. There is no moral victory in winning 8 seats and sitting on them. DAVIS: And very well and good that they didn't try to impeach McGovern the night before elections. Considering that SG has already assumed the position of interpreting McGovern's crimes as unimpeachable, the attempt would have been naked political grand tanding. McGovern is not the problem, not the issue, but merely a component of a system that the "opposition"'s misdirected attention has allowed to continue We get an interesting look at the sky while falling. The few who I've seen express genuine moral and political savvy are coninually brunted from the social elite in SG, and are now being pushed from the "revolutionary elite" that is rising. You will sto these mindless quarrels now if any of you want any chance to ever make the changes you all profess to desire. That is all. [Image] Lawrence Collins - 10/11/98 23:41:18 My Email:LexCollins@aol.com Are you a UF student/professor?: alumnus Referred by: Pat Siracusa Comments: I am an FBK alum. I count Pat Siracusa and Peter Vlcek among my friends. I have met Mr. Grapski, but apart from talking with him at a few parties, I did not have much interaction with him. He seemed nice enough, I suppose. I am a member of Phi Kappa Ta fraternity, which is apparently still active in campus politics. I dabbled in SG, with some success and some failure, and found the experience interesting. Now that you know my background, let me say this: you people are silly. I never understood why people in campus politics behaved the way they do. There is some money involved, to be sure (and many treat SG as a personal shopping spree), but year after year, the money tends to go where it's "needed", and the average student could not care less abou SG; not because they are ignorant; not because they are duped, but because it really is not particularly important. Grades are important. God is important. Ethnic cleansing in Serbia is important. Gator football is important. Student Government is n t important. Perhaps the most disappointing aspect of this warped SG mentality is that some very talented people are wasting their time in this bickering. Mr. Grapski, if nothing else, was a very passionate person. I'm sure many of you involved in this mess today could actually contribute something to your community if you weren't wasting your time with this nonsense. The next time you lose an SG election, why not spend the next semester tutoring a middle school student, or, better yet, focus your ener ies on the corruption and abuse in our State and Federal governments. Actually, I doubt Alachua County and Gainesville city government is any better than when I left. If you want to accomplish something, start there. Check the numbers. You have the vo es. If you want help, ask members of FBK. We are used to dealing with these people. Best of luck. Lawrence Hossain Collins [Image] Nari Heshmati - 10/10/98 18:05:26 My Email:sanityfla@aol.com Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: self Comments: Daniel, since you enjoying qouting others (often in words they did not use), I will qoute you "A message for those who have the bad habit of virulently attempting to defame and attack: When you write malignant ad hominem attacks against me, it means that you have lost the argument, the debate, the question, and the truth. It means that I have WON, and you have LOST." This is all your page is anymore. A long list of defamatory attacks. Be honest with people, why is it you don't mention on this page that all of the anti-vision additions were made shortly after you were not slated with vision. I am sorry that you feel you should have been slated; however, there were better candidates for your area (yes plural more than one better candidate than you). You will probably add critical remarks, false commentary, and such to the end of this so I'll simply allow YOUR words to speak for themselves. Anyone who reviews this page can easily see your personal motivations and your malicious ways. Danny, you have lost sight of the ideals of ethics and morals. Attributing false qoutes and actions to individuals will not get you the senate seat you so badly wanted--the senate seat which in a single member district the voters did not want you to have. All this will get you is legal troubles. It's a shame that a resource such as this web page had to turn into such a defamatory wall of hate that geocities is currently reviewing revoking all of your web privilages for life. The way to make change is to go to senate meetings, voice your concerns, and work through constructive not destructive measures. It is ironic neither me or you are senators but we both find fault with our student government. The difference between me an you is that I go to senate meetings, I learn the facts, and I formulate options of correcting wrongs. I do not simply sit around and complaing that Action is bad, Vision is bad, independents are bad, apathetic voters are bad, how is everyone bad? How is it you are the only one who is right? Nari Heshmati Media Coordinator Vision '98 Vice-President Student Honors Organization Editor Visions of Health student Health Guide Health cabinet--staff avid republican male college student ( I think I have covered everything including the positions I currently hold which reveal and bias I have; however, I am sure Danny can make up some reason why my arguements are false and his are true) Editor's response: Again, I wish to state that I only respond to guestbook entries when they attack my honour and principles, which yours certainly does. Calling something I have written defamatory when it is not, is defamation in itself. Anyone who reviews this entry of yours could tell it surprisingly came right after you were tapped in the "hall of stupidity". Although those quoted would like to say it is always out of context, sometimes it isn't; every word, ad verbum, is what the person in question really stated. There has never been any quote taken out of context; the excuse you give is an old politician's retort. Although you would like to potray my disgust with VISION as solely resulting from "not being slated", you know damn well better than that. Why didn't you also mention that both you and the Party Chair personally called me before slating and promised to vote for me in the slating committee? Then why don't you mention, that after the interviewing for slating, both of you withdrew your support, leaving an under-qualified candidate with the slate? The person you slated has had 1. No previous involvement with the VISION party, and 2. No previous involvement with the area or the area council (which I was elected treasurer of), and 3. No previous experience or involvement with Student Government or campus issues. Nari nari, you know better than this. . . you stated to me after the election results were in from the Treasurer's run-off in the spring that you wanted to "Create a political machine" with the VISION party in control. During the summer, you stated, and I quote (in a conversation witnessed by Charles Grapski): Nari Heshmati: action...i want their people to back us....slow changes.....i'll explain in detail fully later we have connections with the guys moving up in action..with vlcek gone...once mcgovern is gone...things are open for taking. It would be nice to control both parties Myself:Impossible. FBK has the control Nari Heshmati: nope...i want fbk too...no reason to destroy the machine... just change the operator if we push blind tapping we can take it You are the type with the bad habit of forgetting that the first amendment exists. Remember Nari, truth is an absolute defence against defamation. You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free; or at least free from an insider turning the once independent party into a pawn of the system. Game, set, MATCH. [Image] Charles Grapski - 10/09/98 22:04:26 My URL:http://nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu My Email:grapski@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: Student Referred by: Self Comments: This is getting ridiculous. Danny's site has become a vehicle for the likes of Pat Siracusa. No, Pat, that was not me who called you unethical. But now I will. You are one of the most unethical, imoral students ever to grace this campus. You have a history of such behavior. You are one of the people who have given FBK and UF a bad name. As for arrests -- that is irrelevant. Fact - I have never committed nor been convicted of a crime. Fact - I have stood up against the likes of you every day on this campus, in a moral, ethical, and consistent manner. You are trying to intimidate me -- and it does not work. For those who read this they should be informed that you are a public servant, an assistant state attorney, and a member of the Florida bar. No person of your unethical stature deserves to serve in such a position of public responsibility. As for your comments in this past message -- let me state this, they too are defamatory, as well as untrue. Furthermore I am drafting a letter to the bar addressing the fact that you are acting in a manner unbecoming of a member. As for Danny, I had hoped you would wise up. You are now a tool of the system. You need to realise it. [Image] A concerned party - 10/09/98 17:31:46 My Email:stud7@calico-company.com Are you a UF student/professor?: alum Referred by: several Comments: Although this is late notice, everyone should take note that tomorrow morning, OCTOBER 10, 1998, at 11 AM, Charlie Grapski will appear before the alumni board of Florida Blue Key to discuss the problems with the organization. Because FBK is a university rganization, the meeting MUST be open to the public. Everyone interested should attend, and do not be denied access by the elitists (they will try). The meeting is on the 4th floor of the UNION in the PRESIDENT'S DINING ROOM. BE THERE. [Image] Pat Siracusa - 10/09/98 13:19:21 My Email:siracusajr@yahoo.com Are you a UF student/professor?: Alumnus Referred by: Daniel Davis Comments: This is addressed to the anonymous coward that signed the guest book on 10-8-98 calling me unethical. It is obvious that this is Charlie "don't drop the soap" Grapski responding to me under another anonymous identity. He obviously does not want to tell the readers how many times he has been arrested, convicted and incarcerated in this country. It is sad that under a false anonymous entry I would be attacked personally for my long standing commitment to the University of Florida or Florida Blue Key. It goes without saying that anonymous attacks are the work of a coward. If the non-existant anonymous per on wants to ID themselves, then I will respond. By the way, how many arrests, convictions and incarcerations Mr. Grapski? [Image] An FBK Alumnus - 10/08/98 13:20:13 Are you a UF student/professor?: Alumni Referred by: Another FBK Alum Comments: I originally was pointed to this site back in May by another member of FBK. Not being in Florida it is hard to truly know what is going on. Several of us, however, are sincerely concerned about the state of FBK and are absolutely opposed to the act vities that take place in the chapter. The organization now deserves severe punishment, and I, like many alums, am very disappointed that no action has ye been taken. I only hope, and give my support, to Steve O'Connell, a man I respect and admire, to force some changes in the chapter. [Image] Pat Siracusa - 10/07/98 17:22:53 My Email:siracusajr@yahoo.com Are you a UF student/professor?: Alumnus Referred by: Daniel Davis Comments: Mr. Grapski, You seem quite disturbed that Mr. Davis has been thinking for himself lately. Maybe it would bother you less if you graduated and got a life. Since I know you will respond to my comments, why don't you include your biographical informa ion to give the readers an idea of who you are. Please include all of your elected offices at UF, including the large number of times you ran and lost. Oh, and throw in whether you have ever been arrested before and how many times. If you were arres ed, please include the length of time you spent in prisons or jails in Florida. If you cannot remember the number of times you were arrested, feel free to estimate. Pat Siracusa President, Florida Blue Key 1992 President, Phi Kappa Tau 1988 Pi Tau Group Leader 1988-1991 No Criminal History [Image] Charles Grapski - 10/07/98 15:12:48 My URL:http://nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu/~grapski My Email:grapski@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: Student Referred by: Self Comments: Lets get a few facts straight here. I find it quite interesting Mr. Chandler has written his comments -- and he certainly has not actually read mine (actually means read the content -- not the words). Because he clearly misunderstands me. The fact of the matter is -- that I was critical of Vision long before Danny. And Danny and I have spoken about it on many occasions. What Vision has done over the past year has been wrong. And I am truly disappointed in them. I do not believe they have been effective, nor a truly representative independent party. But I also understand WHY they have been what they have. And that has been primarily not a malicious reason -- but a sincere belief on the part of many in Vision that they were doing the right thing. Their mistake was failing to truly understand the problem -- and to truly understand that what we dont need is a mere "opposition party" but a party which is less a party, and more a coalition of independent thinkers, who stand in strong opposition of the current corrupt system (of which, by the way, Mr. Chandler is a CURRENTLY active member) and who propose ways and means to fix the problem. The key point that needs to be stressed -- is that Danny himself made the same statements Vision put on the fliers. And Danny has admitted to me that he is simply using ANY weapons he can find against them -- because he now sees them as the enemy. This, however, is being hypocritical. And it is counterproductive to his own aims. The proof of its counterproductivity can be clearly seen in Chandler's coming to his defence. Furthermore -- the main point about the Vision fliers -- is that they stated FACTS. John McGovern did not "allegedly" post defamatory fliers. He DID post them; he WAS PROVEN to have done so; he was found GUILTY by a jury; and held CIVILLY LIABLE. Therefore Vision did nothing illegal (and Danny knows that full well) -- despite McGovern claiming it is no different than what "I allege he did." (See last weeks Alligator story on the Elections Commission). There is a great deal of difference between the two. 1. Vision admits distributing the fliers. They had the Vision name on them. And they were handed out in person. McGovern and FBK did not admit their fliers. They posted them anonymously; and at night on boards. 2. Vision's fliers contained FACTS. McGovern and FBK's fliers contained known FALSE STATEMENTS. The intent of which was to prevent me from winning an election and to discredit me publicly. 3. I dont "allege" John McGovern and FBK posted and created these fliers. I have PROVEN it. And they have been found guilty of it. Now for Mr. Chandler's comments about my conclusions (negative) of FBK -- being based on a "few personal observations" and "without speaking with the leadership in FBK." My conclusions -- have been proven -- and there is a judicial notice in the courts of the state of Florida which state, as fact, that Florida Blue Key is primarily a political organization, which dominates campus politics and student life, through a corrupt political machine and unethical and often illegal activities. FBK is a followership honorary -- not a leadership honorary. All of this has been proven -- with a wealth of evidence in support of it. What Mr. Chandler needs to do is to provide evidence to the contrary -- and he cannot. My conclusions (and the means by which I have proven these facts to the courts) have been based upon historical documentation ranging from 1920 to the present -- and factual analysis. These are not a "few personal observations." In this trial I introduced documents from FBK ITSELF -- which, while not written expecting to be shown publicly, describe EVERY allegation of corruption and a political machine I have made. Furthermore, in the trial, FBK members (the few who told the truth -- most LIED (perjury) to protect the organization -- including their faculty advisor -- supported ALL of my claims to FBK's corrupt nature. This is all public record now. And Mr. Chandler has no leg to stand on. As for not taking the time to talk with members of FBK. This is false. True -- I have not talked with Chandler -- but Chandler is bullshitting everyone. Here Chandler proposes to the Alumni Review Group that FBK will eliminate the Group System -- yet Chandler has been the Pi Tau Group Leader. Chandler also has written (seen on Danny's site) that the group system is a "good thing" which is above and beyond FBK and is a "natural product of democracy." Chandler knows (or at least should) this is absurd. FBK IS the Group System. That is how he became a member; that is how McGovern became Student Body President; and that is how Chandler became FBK president. Furthermore, this Saturday I am meeting with the FBK Alumni -- to discuss these problems. I am the one who demanded the meeting -- so it is a hard point for Chandler to try and make -- that I am just sitting back, without facts, making accusations. And I am doing this because I care, not about FBK, but about the negative impact it is having on the student body, the university, and the community. And I am committed to putting an end to that negative impact. That is my motivation -- and always has been. Now, as far as my criticism of Danny Davis goes, I like Danny. He is a good kid. But I think he is misguided in his attack on Vision. Not that Vision is beyond criticism. I am highly critical of Vision's actions. But I also have talked to the individuals. And told them my criticisms. And I hope that they will address my concerns -- and rectify the problem. But Danny's attack on Vision has LOST the credibility of the argument that he waged against FBK and McGovern. Because it has tended to be based not on the facts first -- but on Danny's personal hurt feelings and anger. As such he is using anything out there -- thus stating (contrary to fact -- and contrary to Danny's knowledge -- and contrary to Danny's own position and past actions) that the Vision fliers were ILLEGAL and that it was proof that Vision placed politics over principles. What Danny fails to state -- is that the phrase "placed politics over principles" is not Danny's original words -- but MINE. I have stressed that about Vision to him and to Vision members. And it is a serious concern. However, the handing out of the McGovern fliers (by the way -- there were TWO. One stating, factually and truthfully, that McGovern was found GUILTY of defamation (and by the way conspiracy to defame -- both charges which FBK was also found guilty of); the other showing McGovern parking in the Law school faculty parking lot using an official business decal. That, by the way, is a VIOLATION OF THE STUDENT BODY CONSTITUTION. And an abuse of power.) ... so the handing out of the fliers was not what Vision did wrong. This is the message that Danny is now supporting (even though he knows this to be false). What Vision did wrong was not standing up the past year in Senate and elsewhere demanding McGovern's removal from office (which, by the way, is mandated by STATE law). That is what they did wrong. And the reason the fliers were wrong -- is that they should have been unnecessary. There should have been no reason for Vision to have to have told everyone they were opposed to McGovern -- this should have been known to the public -- by their actions. IT was not. So they put the fliers out. There was nothing illegal about the fliers -- what was wrong was the need for them. If Mr. McGovern truly believes that the Vision fliers are similar to HIS fliers about me in 1995 -- he has a lawyer -- I suggest he take them to court, as I did, and see if he has a case. It would be much easier -- because Vision doesnt deny putting them up. The problem is -- they are not defamatory. They are not even factually incorrect. And he has no case. I have stated -- and will continue to state -- John McGovern and FBK were found GUILTY of defamation and conspiracy to defame. If they truly believe they have a case -- I challenge them, take me to court. They cannot. Because it is a FACT. In conclusion, my concern over Danny's current position, is not that Vision is free from criticism. There is a lot to criticize. But that a) Danny's current criticisms are bordering on the unsubstantiated rantings of someone (who in this case justifiably) is personally upset; b) Danny's current criticisms are not, therefore, gaining the merit of his earlier critical and factual analyses; and c) Danny is losing focus of his real concern, and wasting his energy on side issues -- Vision has problems, but they are not the enemy. Nothing, I think, states LOUDER the fact that Danny's current activities are diverting his attention from the real problem -- then Mr. Chandler's response in "his defence." Come on -- Chandler doesnt like Danny. He is attempting to use him. He want Danny to keep focusing on Vision; rather than FBK. What Chandler does not mention in his response -- is what is contained about FBK on Danny's site. I challenge Ryan Chandler -- if he can PROVE FBK is a "leadership" honorary; if he can PROVE FBK is not engaged in unethical and illegal activities -- to do so. Put up or shut up. Where's the proof. Because I can -- AND HAVE -- proved the opposite. And I have proved it with facts; with sworn testimony; with historical documents; with analysis; and with personal observation. [Image] J. Ryan Chandler - 10/07/98 04:52:07 My Email:jrciv@ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: Student Comments: Although I have perused this sight several times, I have not until this moment decided to sign this book. I find Mr. Grapski's recent commentary very interesting, if not somewhat hypocritical. Grapski lashes out at Daniel Davis for wronging the Vision party by exhibiting conflicting statements attributable to a Vision party official. Grapski asserts that Mr Davis has allowed "personal feelings" to cloud his focus. Yet all Mr. Davis has done is make and support an observation. Grapski states that certainly "it is not true that all of the people in Vision have become like the FBK-people." Well, it does not take a genius to realize that "FBK-people," in Mr. Grapski's mind, denotes some negative idea. Regardless, if Mr. Davis is wrong because he bases his opinion on a part rather than the whole, you too, Charlie Grapski, are wrong for labeling Florida Blu Key as a corrupt organization based on a perception supported by only a few personal observations. Interestingly, Davis appears to have actually spoken with the Vision official he criticizes (the party chairman, I believe). I wonder why you have not taken similar time to approach someone truly representative of all of Florida Blue Key before making up your mind based on a small minority of members you encounter? Oh wait, I forgot. It would not matter what was said. Your mind is made up. It really woul not matter what Mr. Davis' reason were for changing his site. So long as the view and tone espoused on this site differs from yours, he has to be wrong. Someday Charlie Grapski, you will realize there is a Truth greater than your own. Practice what you preach or quit preaching. [Image] Mike Schmitt - 10/05/98 17:28:27 My URL:http://grove.ufl.edu/~honest My Email:schmitt@beer.com Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: self Comments: Good work Danny. I applaud you for sticking to your convictions, and for pointing out something that is wrong even when those who are wrong are (or were) allies. What VISION did was wrong, and they need to take responsibility for their actions, or fall to the same critic sm that they have doled out to the action party. Of course Vision and Action are different in many ways, but you can understand when one group makes accusations about another group about one action, and then performs a similiar action (if not illegal, th n inappropriate),they leave themselves open for criticism. As for the idea that the fliers were only "allegedly" handed out, you are hiding behind double talk that we all criticize Action for over and over again. I recieved a flier; can we all now agree that they were handed out? I think that Dan has a legitimate beef with Vision, and that Vision is the one who has alot of explaining to do. Why advertise yourself as the "independent" party, if you are not willing to slate people who work for the party imply because they are vocal independent thinkers? What does Vision hope to accomplish by becoming the other side of the SG coin? Until they learn to think outside the SG spectrum, Vision will be nothing more than the loyal opposition, hoping to grab so e scraps from the Action feeding frenzy. So why play their game? [Image] Charles Grapski - 10/04/98 06:15:19 My URL:http://nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu My Email:grapski@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: Student Referred by: Self Comments: Danny, This is quite unfortunate. Your page is losing sight and focus. While it is true, there are problems in Vision, it is not true that Vision = Action. That is a mistatement -- and an exageration, and your personal feelings are getting in the way of your udgement. (In politics you will have to learn that it is easy to let this happen, because it can get so personal, but if you want to be truly effective; and truly what you claim -- as well as what you claim to expect from SG; then you will have to learn to put thos personal hurt feelings aside while you make judgements and decisions. You are not currently doing this). As a result -- this valuable site -- is becoming clouded. Remember this, Danny, I was the one who stated that truly good politics puts "principles over pragmatics (and party interests)" -- and I was the one who stated that some people in Vision had reversed this principle -- to the detriment of the Vision group, as well as the student body. It is true that Vision has been relatively ineffective. It is true that some individuals in Vision have made bad decisions, and done wrong things. But it is not true that all of the people in Vision have become (or always were) like the FBK-people and FBK-backed parties. James Salt has made several mistakes -- and I think you will find that he is the first to admit it. But James Salt is not an ind vidual with malicious motives. Quite the opposite. Everyone in this process is learning, including yourself. Therefore they make mistakes. James did. Vision has. But the fact is -- they are recognizing this, and trying to deal with it. What you sho ld be doing is enlightening them as to what those mistakes are -- and encouraging them to rectify them for the future. You too -- have made mistakes. And this is one of them. To point out how much you have lost sight -- look to your first claim that Vision = Action. You rail against them about the McGovern fliers. Now look to your own site. You have a picture of McGovern with a moustache drawn on it; and you rail against Mc overn (deservedly). Thats what Vision did. Nothing you have not done. The only real reason Vision's fliers were a mistake -- was not the content -- or the supposed "negativity" -- but the fact that if they had done their job; spoke out in senate; and demanded his removal - they would not have HAD to put those fliers out. You know full well that Vision's statement on the fliers was ENTIRELY ACCURATE. John McGovern WAS found guilty. He was found guilty of defaming (me) and of conspiring to defame (me). The jury's verdicts read as follows: "We the jury find t at John McGovern DID..." these two acts. That is a finding of guilt, in every definition. As a result of finding him guilty of these acts (two acts in violation of civil laws) the jury THEN held him "civilly liable" for those acts. This, however, is NO DIFFERENT than saying he was found guilty. You know full well that you have said exactly the same thing numerous times. You know full well what Vision did was NOT illegal. Yet you have gotten so caught up in feeling the need to attack Vision; that you have taken ANY argument, no matter how falac ous, and asserted it as yours. Now, Danny, think a little deeper -- who does that make YOU like? In this case, Danny Davis = Action/FBK would be equally as applicable to your statements about Vision. This I know not to be true, just as I know that the ndividuals in Vision are not all fitting of this description (although some associated recently do fit that). Danny, think before you act. And I think, knowing your intelligence, that you can see that you have erred here. I hope you can put aside your hurt feelings (which certainly should be hurt, given the recent events) to see the bigger picture. Charlie [Image] Derrick T. Glover - 10/01/98 14:23:56 Are you a UF student/professor?: Student Comments: Danny, Why your sudden change of heart with Vision? I'm a bit confused by your statements. How you reached the conclusion that the Vision party is totally about politics just like Action is totally nonsensical. It is ALLEDGED that Vision handed out the "banned" flyers about McGovern, it hasn't been proved. I was under the impression that any illustration of SG Corruption would be OK in your mind if its purpose was to inform students. How would passing out political flyers in a campaign differ from this? "Guilty" or "civilly liable", whatever. The fact of the matter is that they connote the same thing, as James pointed out in his article. So o me a favor and lay off of James Salt because he has done nothing wrong in any case. This incident does NOT prove that he is a "political party" man as you have insinuated. I am also suspiscious of the timing of your "change of heart" concerning Vision. It wouldn't have anything to do with you not being slated for the Murphree Area now, would it? I'm disappointed that you're throwing away the logical arguments that you hav made in the past in order to launch an assault on Vision. By doing so, you are being counterproductive to your own goal, which is, I assume, to end SG corruption. Maybe I'm missing something here, but in any case you have a LOT of explaining to do!!!!! [Image] Michael DeWese - 09/30/98 04:13:24 My URL:http://home.earthlink.net/~mdewese/ My Email:mdewese@earthlink.nt Are you a UF student/professor?: No Referred by: Danny Comments: Danny, Keep up the good work on the site. However, I think you should remove the quote you have from McGovern on the first page. I read the Alligator article that this is proportedly from and can find no mention of it. Maybe you can use what is actually in th article to get your point across. I hope all is well in G-ville. And what did you find out about the botched elections in your district. I'll write you later by regular email. Mike [Image] Circa Qtech Man - 09/23/98 06:32:04 My Email:qtech@ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: student Comments: Hell of a good job here. We will be talking [Image] Ken Decoteau - 09/18/98 21:19:34 My Email:kendec@ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: Daniel davis Comments: I'll be back to give it a closer look. Apparently something is not right with the FBk & SG. I'm not sure the angle you are taking is quite the right one to deal with the problem. -ken [Image] james thompson - 09/15/98 13:43:15 My Email:thompson@history.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: grad. assistant, GAU co-organizing chair Referred by: Steve Hach Comments: Rad site, dude. Plan to check it more when I have the time, maybe even add my two cents. Solidarnosc, James [Image] steve hach - 09/15/98 03:53:50 My Email:shach@history.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: PhD student Referred by: moon mag Comments: killer page man. so very, very informative. found it after following the whole moon/insite battle. don't hesitate to contact me for any political activities. will transmit instructions to both the history department grad students and the graduate assi tants union. action pulled a bunch of shit on us by giving us 3 grad student reps but effectively removing our right to vote for the 10 or so that run from LAS in the spring. the grad rep I mistakenly voted for--Dina Richman--gave me the total party bul shit line about McGovern and Action. the latest reapportionment SHIT and the denial of the recall initiative says a great deal about the pieces of excrement we're up against. However, your page says SO much more. please keep up the good fight. have you ever researched the case of a guy named Marna Weston? I heard he got elected treasurer a few years ago and they did some kind of number on him to run him out... [Image] Adam J. Smargon - 09/15/98 03:14:00 My URL:http://www.afn.org/~recycler/ My Email:recycler@afn.org Are you a UF student/professor?: 1997 UF alumnus... now a grad student in the northeast Referred by: Moon Magazine's web site Comments: I was, like Grapski and Mayeux, a candidate for president in the spring of 1995. I was heading a joke party: "Florida Orange Key." But I did it with a message. I had run for senate twice beforehand, with serious parites, and lost to FBK by huge margins So I figured, I'll run under a joke party, but I will look and talk like FBK. I had shirts, platforms, buttons... the works. I even used some doublespeak during the debate. But the kicker was when Peter Vlcek gave me one of those flyers that said Gra ski was a child molester. Yes -- he actually GAVE one to me! And before he did s, I put my hand up and said, "Are you sure this is OK for you to give this to me?" He said yes, I relented, and he gave it to me... which I then gave to Grapski the next ti e I saw him... anyway, I graduated in 1997 and came to Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (no, I can't pronounce it either... everyone says RPI) in the Albany, New York area for graduate school. Imagine my surprise when I was contacted by Joe Little in mi -March 1998 to come testify in the Grapski v. FBK trial! Well, I flew into Gainesville in early April, and saw old friends, and then I testified for about thirty minutes on exactly what I wrote above. It was very interesting and exciting, and I kept thi king to myself, "don't perjure yourself. Don't perjure yourself. Don't perjure yourself..." I had a feeling that Vlcek would do something stupid during the trial (and only because he was stupid enough to give me that flyer in March 1995), and he did. e was representing himself at the trial, and I thought he had a fool for a client. Anyway, he asked me, "Why did I give this flyer to you?" (He didn't even say "allegedly"...) And I responded, "Well, you're supposed to be this great political thinker... maybe you wanted to see my reaction." He kinda mumbled to himself after that, with a final "No more questions." Grapski got everything he deserved in that trial, and Vlcek will get everything he deserves... at any rate, I am doing fine here in upstate New York. Grad school is everything I imagined, and I keep track of the FBK news by way of the 'Net. Keep fighting! [Image] George Garner - 09/12/98 03:09:46 My Email:stainles@ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: dd Comments: I believe in the Vision party and it's mission to change SG and gain control from the Action/Frat/Sorority regime. [Image] Laura Rosselli - 09/11/98 04:52:00 My Email:lauraros@ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: myself Comments: Daniel, I commend you in your efforts to reform the much-maligned student government here at our prestigious university. It is difficult to stand up to opposition of any kind, let alone a power structure so deeply rooted in the history of politics at the University of Florida. It is a frustrating and disappointing issue…one that many people do not want to face, let alone talk about. In a society that seems to stress grades over comprehension, money over sincerity, and gain over morality, it is sometimes wearisome for one to stand up for others in the pursuit of democracy, integrity, and honesty. Anyone who takes up this cross deserves commendation for it is a long, arduous road that offers no rest stops along the way. The frustration and disappointment that many feel toward SG is natural. Everyone wants to believe their elected representatives are impartial and trustworthy, acting always in the best interest of their constituents. Unfortunately, the majority of representatives in our SG are self-serving as they wallow in self-exultation, drown in insidiousness, and asphyxiate the very essence of democracy, WE the people. Well, it is time that students at this university stop justifying their apathy in the name of frustration, disappointment, and history (among an array of other excuses). Change has to be initiated, not simply conjectured. The current majority party has deceived the students at UF in more ways than one. You expose these deceptions, lies, and fallacies to all who are willing to listen. However, the plight is not yours alone, it belongs to anyone with even a shred or morality. This includes the students professors, and especially the administration who has stuck its head in the sand one too many times as the frightened ostrich. We can agree that procedures, policies, and provisions are all in need of desperate reformation concerning SG. However, attitudes must change first in order for these things to take place. One must have conviction to do what she/he knows is right or prevaricate thyself to the world. Danny, even in your facetious manner, you take up the cross on the road for an honorable, equitable, and most importantly, democratic student government here at UF. Your efforts are not simply praiseworthy, but admirable. Laura [Image] Nate Watson - 09/11/98 02:09:46 My Email:nate1@grove.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: Student Comments: Dan, I would never have expected all of this out of you. I can't help but agree with your ideas on student gov't FBK and the whole greek system in general though. I am quite impressed. Keep up the good work. [Image] Earl Ziebarth - 09/08/98 05:03:07 My Email:ziebarth@totcon.com Are you a UF student/professor?: alumni 86 Referred by: Moon Mag Comments: Wow what a site. Glad you weren't in school when I was Student Body President in 85-86. But then again we ran an ethical administration and clean election. Keep up the good spread of information. [Image] Chris Valada - 09/03/98 22:44:58 My URL:http://valada.cjb.net My Email:clvalada@aol.com Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: Daniel, Vision Party Comments: This is a very extensive page. It is informational as well as creative and aesthetically pleasing. A job well done. Chris Valada [Image] Dave Ward - 08/31/98 14:43:32 My Email:daveward@ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: law student Referred by: Vision Party Comments: The page was well done and the facts appear to be in order as far as I can see. As a former Vision '97/'98 candidate and party Treasurer, I would like to commend Daniel Davis for the time and effort that he put into coordinating this information. It as been my experience that most of the students at UF feel that the facts as they relate to GS and FBK and the Power Group system is just part of an opposition party "conspiracy theory" which has no basis in fact. I would like to publicly state that, in my opinion, nothing could be further from the truth. Universities, by their very nature are transient institutions. The advantage that the FBK system has is that it is able to pass down its organization to successive students. Opposition parties in the past have been somewhat unorganized and have not been in a position to pass down their organization from older to younger students because, for the most part, these organizations were built around a temporary issue, and when the students who were working on that specific issue graduated, any future oppositio party would have to start over at "square one." If this web site does nothing else, it is my hope that it would inform new students of the things that have gone on in the past in relation to SG, and to alert them as to what will continue to happen if they ignore their responsibility to go out and vote. You as the student reading this message do not have to go out and vote for the Vision Party, or the Honest Party, or any other opposition party that surfaces from time to time. But I would ask that you take the time to examine the issues and the candida es and take the time to vote, so that the Party that does win can do so because it received a mandate from the students as a whole, and not just from less than 10% of the eligible voters. Please remember, if you do not tell your elected officials what yo want, and then hold them accountable at the polls - then you are getting out of government what you have put into it...nothing, and that is a terrible waste of time and resources. [Image] Megan - 08/25/98 14:24:40 My Email:marakibo@ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: Mr. Davis himself Comments: Daniel, I am curious as to how your interest began in politics and what has driven you feel so strongly. Please respond, I am truely curious. I myself have extremely strong opinions on the topic of politics and how it is causing our country to suffer in many ays. Especially when it comes down to affecting the well being of people physically and emotionally. Please let me know. Thank you. [Image] Mike Podolsky - 07/27/98 15:37:23 My Email:mike@moonmag.com Are you a UF student/professor?: alum Comments: Dan, I am a reporter with MOON magazine here in town. I am working on a story about FBK's influence on SG, the repercussions of the Grapski trial, the administrations stand on FBK and other related topics. I could not find your e-mail address or I would ave posted this privately. Pleae give me a call at the MOON office at your convenience. I would like to talk with you about your and others experiences with SG. Anyone else who has had postive or negative experiences with FBK and SG is also w lcome to contact me. thanks mike [Image] Christian - 06/29/98 17:49:46 Are you a UF student/professor?: nope Referred by: D.D. Comments: Nice page. Keep the fight up, keep the misinformation flowing and the buorocracy going. It is the american way isnt it? I really have no idea what the politics are like at UF but having been a student of FSU and UCF its probably simillar. A popularity con est in which a small vocal minority votes and is represented. The majority is not represented cause they dont give a shit anymore. Its like that at the student, local, state and federal government levels. Nobody cares anymore. The elected officials are ju t figure heads manipulated by the powers that helped them get elected. Mabey not so much at the student gov. level as at the federal, but the point I'm tryin to get at is that the amount of power given to these small napoleonic wanabees who run for office makes them go stupid in the head. I say its time for some Oklahoma City action!! [Image] Stella Choi - 06/24/98 04:49:58 My Email:stella.choi@yale.edu Comments: Wow. I wrote that last entry without looking at the others, and before doing more than giving this site a once-over. As an outsider, I have to say that most everything on this page is confusing and sometimes bewildering. I do not have the time to read al the archives, nor to look at any other site regarding these issues. From what little I can glean from jumping into the middle of an obviously ongoing debate, I can only make one truly confident statement: My goodness! How different your school is from mine! We have a separate Political Union (YPU) and student government, the Yale College Council (YCC). The YPU brings in big political guns and they keynote speak before a student debate. I would have to say the best parallel I see here to our YPU student deb tes would be this guestbook. As for the YCC, well, they really have no power, so there is very little interest. I believe the last voter turnout was something along the lines of 35%, and this was after they put the ballots online so that one could vote at anytime for 3 or 4 days from one's email account. As far as I can tell, they organize social activities and "advise" the administration on student related matters, but that is the extent of their duties. It is funny to note that the latest campus outrage was over the fact that the YCC got the Indigo Girls for our Spring Fling instead of a group with more broad-based appeal. This was our "scandal". It seems rather frivolous in light of what appears to be real problems of politicking and shady dealings that are facing your SG and campus. As a member of the YPU and specifically the Tory Party, my college political experience has been one of philosophical idea exchange, rather than true politics. I am grateful for this, seeing as i have a lifetime to be upset and outraged at my government. Also, as an officer of a sorority, I have to say to my fellow Greeks at UF that you are lucky that you are important enough at your school to cause such debate. The frats here can attract attention from time to time in ways other than parties, but so orities are basically ignored. Even if it is negative press, be grateful that when you speak,someone actually listens and cares. Apathy is far worse than controversy. Oh dear, I may have just contradicted myself, as I earlier stated that I was glad that student politics were not so involved and implied that I myself am quite apathetic to the YCC. To defend myself, I can only say that I have no issues to complain about in terms of student government. So far, whenever anything has even slightly bothered me, student action committees were formed which rectified (or at least attempted to) the situation. A bit of a sad defense, I admit, but hey, it's almost 1AM and my min is shutting down. To conclude, I apologize for the length of this entry. The jarring differences I saw compelled me to write. If I misunderstood any of the characteristices I saw in campus, I'm sure Mr. Davis will let me know. Cheers from Connecticut. [Image] Stella Choi - 06/24/98 03:48:48 My URL:http://www.yale.edu/tory My Email:stella.choi@yale.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: neither Referred by: Dan Davis Comments: What an extensive page, Dan! I particularly like the Cavalier Anthem looped on the photo page. Good choice! Do you know the words? Cheers! [Image] Anthony J Pedicini - 06/18/98 12:26:48 My Email:pedicia@eog.state.fl.us Are you a UF student/professor?: UF student, for now Comments: Daniel, For the record, Governor Chiles never ever signed the bill into law. He just let it become law by leaving it alone until it became law itself. Please make that correction on your web page. Also I am sad to report that due to my position within the Tobacco Pilot Program and the GOvernor's Office, I will be transfering to FSU. I will do my best to help their student government to not become what ours was. Please keep up the good fight we are gaining ground every day. Soon the University of Florida will have a chance to start over. I feel it coming. If there is anything I can do as far as the government or the governor is concerned let me know. My numbe at the governor's office is 850 488 5576 and at home 850 575 8578 Please call so we can discuss the plethora of events that have unfolded that I have unfortuantely missed. Thanks Anthony [Image] David King - 06/01/98 21:20:49 My Email:DKing@ufl.edu Comments: Hmmmmmm sounds like someone needs mental therapy and quickly. Editor's response: Hmmm. . . sounds like someone needs stupidity therapy, and quickly. [Image] Jim Spaeth - 06/01/98 00:07:12 My Email:jdspaeth@grove.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: alumnus Comments: Daniel- In reference to the accusation that the Orlando Sentinel reporter in the FBK trial was living with Mr. Grapski, I feel that I must correct Mr. Lambert's error. I can state, for a fact, that the accusation is simply not true. Mr. Grapski was staying with a friend during the period. I do not know where the reporter (who is from the Miami bureau) was staying, but it was not with Mr. Grapski's friend. I sincerely hope that those people commenting on the issues on your page have better information than this gentleman. [Image] Alex Lambert - 05/31/98 23:33:49 My Email:alexis215@aol.com Are you a UF student/professor?: Student Comments: Dear Mr. Davis- Your web page reflects quite a bit of effort. Your passionate distaste for injustice is a wonderful quality. However, I would invite you to take your thirst for knowledge beyond what you have already done- more specifically, to Senate and Budget meeti gs. You are undoubtedly aware of the Alligator's tendency to selectively edit and publish that which the editorial staff chooses. You are also probably aware that the reporter covering the trial for the Orlando Sentinel was living with Grapski at the ti e. I'm not filing any accusations- quite frankly, I don't know Grapski and have never even meet Vlcek. But, I would encourage you to open yourself up even more for information. Neither of the major parties have spotless records. Vision and Action memb rs have been known to destroy each other's paraphernalia, and senators from both parties have proposed controversial (to say the least) budget appropriations. Talk to these people- ask questions before you accuse. You will be amazed at the things that ca happen when you let go of your anger. [Image] Travis Shredd - 05/20/98 00:07:54 My URL:http://members.aol.com/shreddrums/home.html My Email:shreddrums@aol.com Are you a UF student/professor?: yes Referred by: John McGovern Comments: Dear Mr. Davis, I don't appreciate your snide attitude and bland sense of humor when it comes to matters of student politics, and apparently, neither does anyone else. Your jokes on the subject are not at all humorous. You'll never be a comedian. Your opinions on the subject are in no way based on fact or experience, only on what you hear or read in the Alligator. You'll never be anyone. You are pathetic and have no life. When you graduate from college, if you graduate, you will become yet another one of America's homeless. I hope that one day you realize that there is more to life than mere student politics, and you will cease your inane and utterly useless psychopathic ravings on the subject. Sincerely, Travis Shredd Editor's response: Dear Plebian scum, I don't appreciate your illiterate attitude and pathetic attempt to respond to political commentary when it comes to matters of criticising public servants, and apparently, neither does anyone else in your INBRED family. You'll never be musician. Your 'music' is so unbelievably low-class, INBRED, declasse, and worthless, it boggles the mind that someone with 46 chromosomes would ever listen to it, much less consider themself a so-called "countrymetaltecho 'musician'" whose 'album' is titled "Headbangers Squaredance" [sic]. Your opinions on the subject of University of Florida Student Government is in no way based on fact or experience or intelligence or even thinking, only on the even-more-pathetic person who had you write your hate entry (NOT John McGovern, somebody else) You are a worthless waste of carbon, and nothing more than an oxygen-thief. When I graduate from the University of Florida, with my degree, I will become yet another one of America's educated citizens, supporting another undeserving, meritless, homeless, slothlike, corrupt, evil, inferior, and infrahuman scumsucking cockaroach like YOU. I hope that one day you realise your ignorance, stupidity, and worthlessness, and understand that government and politics affect almost everything on earth, and that you will cease your inane and "utterly useless" and criminally psychopathic inherent inferior genetic scrawlings on the subject. Sincerely, Someone who knows what you really are. [Image] Dan - 05/13/98 23:11:31 My Email:dhmullen@grove.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: student Comments: I hate to say it, but this page is on my favorites. Once, that was because I found it amusing and powerful. Now I stare at it with the same morbid fascination that one looks at a car wreck with. Danny, I found you to be astute on many of your views, bu almost dangerously misinformed on others. Our private conversations have left me slackjawed, and as I read your page and listen to you at senate, I wonder if you know how dangerous you can be to your own cause. I actually have to go so far as to agree with Brent Gordon who pointed out that for a l your rhetoric (yes, that) about budgets and so forth, have you ever been to a budget meeting? Difficult as it may sometimes be to see opposing views as at all valid (you sometimes KNOW that you're right, you know?), to be successful as a journalist and political commentator, it is neccesary to be more than a satirist, and to successfully change th system, it is neccesary to be more than a spectator. Here more council than your own. I suspect I will be targeted for one of your so-scathing retorts, so I remind you to think about why you'd be doing it. Good day, and fight a better fight. It is not my responsibility to baby-sit SG budget meetings. It is the responsibility of the budget committee, the treasurer, and other SG members. WE THE PEOPLE ELECT representatives to REPRESENT us. Hence, I cast my vote for my student senators, executives, and they form their own meetings and committees. "Good day, and fight a better fight." Monsieur, I HAVE AND I WILL. [Image] thomas E. Mosser - 05/11/98 23:12:11 My Email:tmosser.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: yes Referred by: e-mail Comments: looks neat, for someone interested in politics; unfortunately I'm not. It's good you are taking an interest, though, in trying to push good leadership into the university [Image] Jerry Jones - 05/10/98 18:52:00 My Email:JerryJ@ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: No Comments: I think that the whole concept of winning or losing an argument is dumb. Arguments should serve to present different views of problems in a critical environment and to help find solutions to problems, not to see which one "wins" or "loses". That is really stupid. [Image] Michael J. Procopio - 05/09/98 18:01:11 Are you a UF student/professor?: ...Student Comments: Let it be known that Daniel Davis, in the publication of this page, has done our University and -society- a service that is long overdue. Dan, a long time friend, is not revenge driven, nor does he seek vengeance; rather, he seeks -justice-. And, the prob em is, he doesn't find any damn -justice- in the whole entire student governemnt / action party / FBK system. My personal congratulations to you, sir, and may all of you know this: it is high time that someone has brought these issues to public forum so hat all may see the bruhaha and the disregard and the complete -joke- of democracy that occurs here at the University of Florida. You have my unrelenting support. Warmest Regards, Fats aka Michael J. Procopio [Image] Danny King - 05/04/98 20:22:55 My Email:DKing@grove.ufl.edu Comments: This page is the most god-awful piece of trash I have ever encountered in my existence. The arguments are weak and illogical, and the the humor is just not very funny. I have no idea who has produced this sorry example of freedom of speech, but whoever it is should be pushed up against a wall and shot. All student government operations at UF are a joke, and the people who cannot see that need mental therapy. Usually, strong attackers of a political party are made by people who yearn for power themselves, but they usually have none and can only compensate their faults by creating lame web pages for people to make fun of. This page sounds like it was written by an over-competitive asshole who takes every rejection as a personal insult and instead of confronting people face to face, he slithers behind their backs and writes mean things about them -- in the tradition of all pathetic wimps with no self-esteem. Looking over the guestbook once more it almost seems like it serves only to boost the author -- this Danny characters -- sorry relations with his peers. I feel embarrased myself that I even spent so much time reviewing and replying to this garbage. Whatever. Editor's response: They tell me to take it easy on stupid people, and I try. They tell me not to be so direct with inferior intellects, and I try. I really do try. But every time I have to read a malignant entry like yours, I cannot help but respond with the appropriate righteous indignation. Oh my. . . where shall we begin? You state, "The arguments are weak and illogical", thus assuming all of the arguments and propositions in this publication are so. Yet, if they are all so wrong, why cannot you name a single one that is wrong? Not even one? That is an interesting thought. And there are no "sorry" examples of freedom of speech in this country. (with perhaps, the exception of your defamatory and malignant guestbook entry) Where are the main objections that you should therefore have? You say the knowledge within this publication is illogical, yet you commit two glaring logical fallacies in your first few sentences. Argumentum ad hominem, and Argumentum ad baculum; attacking a person instead of the idea, and also fallaciously arguing that they "should be pushed up against a wall and shot" (the second fallacy {among countless others} an appeal to brute force and not logic). Apparently, you believe that my arguments are entirely fallacious without exception, though no less than former president of FBK Pat Siracusa has corroborated with the Inside FBK section of this site (see proof.html). Of course, you giving a death threat is SO much more logical, you are beginning to sound like Spock from Star Trek. SG "operations" are a joke? You will, perchance, not find it quite as funny when you are part of a student organisation that needs funding from SG and does not get it. You will not find it so funny when you learn that kickbacks and illegal bidding practices are been allegedly going on (Remember former SG Tres. Joey Standlen's resignation over the advertising bid?) You will not find it as hilarious when you find out that the status quo has completely disenfranchised almost the entire student body (see the votes to senate seats discrepancies located under "Inside FBK") Have you ever used telegator? SW Rec centre? Did you laugh as you used those SG funded services? Oh but I forget; according to your brilliant logic, if you don't find telegator, the SW Rec centre, and the on-campus buses (all of those are SG "operations") to be a "joke", then in your logic system they "need mental therapy". So your perfect Spockian logic has every student who does register by phone (while laughing) to be in a dire need of a psychiatrist (you must be feeling lonely in your current group therapy). "No self-esteem"? Wow! Not only do you have such perfect logic, but you also have the unique and non-existing ability to give correct psychoanalysis (which usually takes years of intense vis-a-vis therapy) without ever seeing, speaking, or even knowing someone. That is an amazing discovery in the field of psychological science! You are quite talented (it almost makes up for your many other faults in communication and debate - {for the record, I said almost }) As for the tired old line "you just want power for yourselves", I have never run for a SG office, nor am I an official member of any party. The only power I desire is to democratic power to vote for whom I choose. I am a concerned student, and with people like you around, I have every right to be concerned. You say that "he slithers behind their backs and writes mean things about them . . ." I find that to be "a joke", since that IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. Suprise, suprise. . . This WWW site has been published for the ENTIRE world to see. . . that's not exactly "behind their backs", now is it? (whoever's backs you are referring you so logically did not mention) But now I feel embarrassed that I even spent so much time reviewing and replying to your garbage. What a joke you are, son. Whoever you are. Or as you like to say, whatever . [Image] Charlie Grapski - 05/04/98 04:46:47 My URL:http://nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu/~grapski My Email:grapski@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: Student Referred by: I found your page months ago Comments: Danny, I decided to add my comments to your wonderful page. Yes indeed, you did coordinate this page and write most of it long before you met me. And may I say I WAS IMPRESSED. You are truly a well informed and well intentioned student. Any of the detractors on his page have the opportunity to attack your ideas -- but obviously cannot -- so they sink to ad hominem attacks. The truth of the matter is that the University of Florida, with the support of John Lombardi and the rest of the UF administration, has supported and condoned FBK's domination and control over SG -- and FBK's hazing (to put it mildly) of the Greek System. On this last point -- for those of you who think that Danny, I, or any others fighting this battle are anti-Greek -- this simply is not the case. Members of Greek organizations are students too. And as students they are being denied their rights to a resp nsible, ethical, and representative SG. And in that denial they are losing out. Just think of it this way -- how many Greek houses have been put on probation -- or even removed from campus for hazing violatons. Well, when FBK threatens a house and/or its embers with retaliation for not actively supporting its party (such as refusal of its members being tapped into FBK ((and you thought it was about being a leader!!)); or refusal of its members being slated for senate, or being given a cabinet directorship, etc.)-- that my friends is HAZING -- and it violates UF's conduct code. Fraternities have been punished for it -- why not FBK? You ask the question. The real harm, though, is that done to us all as citizens. UF is teaching the wrong lesson. It, through SG, is teaching the average student that it is not worth the trouble participating in government -- because its corrupt; that its not worth standing up for your rights -- because the cost is too high - and you'll probably lose. And its teaching our state and nation's future leaders -- not how it OUGHT to be done in the real world. But how to get ahead through corrupt practices. Lie, cheat, steal -- threaten, bribe, coerce. These are the tools UF gives our future leaders. And in not taking action -- John Lombardi condones the actions of FBK, Vlcek, McGovern and the rest. That is a bad lesson for our students. But that is the University of Florida. I have tried to change it in my years here. And I have tried to expose it to the public. There is little personal reward in this -- beyond meeting people like yourself, Danny. Keep up the good fight. Charlie [Image] Xavi - 05/04/98 03:04:08 My Email:Xavies@aol.com Are you a UF student/professor?: Interested Party Referred by: Nikotai Comments: Cowards hide behind false email addresses! If you can't answer Davis honestly, stay off the board. [Image] Katie Draws - 05/02/98 19:44:12 Are you a UF student/professor?: Student Comments: This site is so lame. Nothing anyone has written makes any sense. Can't you people think of anything better to do with your time? Editor's response: And then you took the trouble to visit this site & sign the guestbook. Honey, can't you think of anything better to do with your time? [Image] Dave Halpern - 05/01/98 17:23:01 My Email:bg22446@binghamton.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: Former Student Comments: I would like to respond to the idiotic statements made by some fellow Greek members. It is all good to say what you think however illogical they are, but at least be somewhat respectful of views that may not always coincide with yours, including dissenti g views from many of your own brothers and sisters who happen to just not verbalize them. It is WRONG for Greeks to be a target of all these attacks. HOWEVER, FBK has PURPOSELY MANIPULATED the inherent "Greek vs. Non-Greek" scenario to further cause tension. It doesn't have to be that way and SHOULD not be that way. The Action Party does no represent Greeks but is a puppet of FBK. Fraternities and sororities should not be given token positions just to be given the false sense of security that these brothers and sisters can even GET THINGS DONE for them. If Student Government continues to xclude students, than Greeks themselves are hurting because of the low representation that results which further weakens their resolve (and everyone else's) in issues of the day. As an independent Greek, I made my own decisions on the basis of what was best for the Greek system and the entire Student Body, in getting things done, not just to pad a resume. I hope those who read this, deeply consider that IT IS NOT GREEK vs. NON-GREEK but getting things done for ALL students vs. padding a resume. [Image] Orlando Davis - 04/30/98 21:33:18 My Email:cicero13@magicnet.net Are you a UF student/professor?: Cal State /Better Referred by: Experience Comments: All this student government discussion is stupid, when we have to live in the real world and be ruled by the corrupt Clinton and Congress! Let's get rid of these fools! [Image] Jason Ward Neitzel - 04/30/98 00:58:33 My Email:jasonwn@zebra.net Are you a UF student/professor?: 1994 UF Alumnus Referred by: S. H. G. Comments: Daniel, I really like the site. It was forwarded to me by a college buddy who was one of the few deserving and ethical FBK members. I was the author of a letter to the editor of the Alligator earlier this month explaining FBK operations. Unfortunately, the let er was edited, and some of the best parts were not printed. However, I found a quote on your FBK trial page that I think should be removed. It is: Bobek: "Do you know what a leading question is?" Bondi: "Yes" Bobek: "Isn't it one that. . . [proceeds then to lead into the question]" -Barry Bobek, Attorney for defendant John McGovern, cross-examining Brad Bondi and evidently unaware of the irony of his words While it may be true that the question he asked was a leading question, leading questions are allowed on cross-examination. The only time that leading questions are disallowed is on direct or redirect examination (unless a request by the examining attorn y to treat the witness as hostile is granted by the court, or the witness is an adverse party). FED. R. EVID. 611(c). Just thought you should know. Keep up the good work on the site. I find it very entertaining. Jason Ward Neitzel 1994 UF Alumnus To all of you looking to e-mail ridicule, I was Greek and involved, so save it. [Image] LER - 04/29/98 22:08:08 My Email:leahr@ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: a friend Comments: I think your page is funny and insightful, though I think you give some of us sorority girls a bad rap...I happen to be one who thinks FBK and Action and all that is a bunch of garbage...we aren't all ditzy and idiotic... Thank you, though, I learned some new things about how corrupt our school really is.. Best of luck to you, DD!! Editor's note: Thank you very much, I am happy your editfication has transcended. By the way, I in no way have any anything but pure love for our fair sorority girls. The 'ditzy' stereotype is both unfair & untrue. Peace be unto you, Princess Leah! [Image] Derrick T. Glover - 04/28/98 06:05:03 Are you a UF student/professor?: Student Referred by: Daniel Davis Comments: To the people who criticize Daniel's right to express his political views : shame, shame, shame. If you stupid ass critics want to show discontent with Daniel's statement, argue it on the facts and with reason, not on personal cheap shots. Taking cheap s ots at people shows me that you are a dumb ass who hasn't the capacity to THINK. FBK knows that they are on a sinking ship right now. Their tricks will only get dirtier, their attacks only stronger. My advice to my brothers and sisters: Hold the battle line. Do what is right by recognizing true leadership and merit, not bowing down to the aristocratic, political machine. These attacks on Daniel are only natural. When a wild animal, who doesn't have the ability to reason, is trapped in a corner, it will fight back in its own instinctual way. It will claw and snarl, but it can't compete with the barrel of a gun. I just wanted to congratulate all of my fellow NATIONAL BLUE KEY brothers and sisters who were inducted the other night : Daniel Davis, Mark Dembinsky, Gary Slossberg, Jim Stanton, Brad Casey, you guys are the bomb. We will be carrying on the legacy of Gr pski and Plaza, the paragon of UF leadership. To all of the supporters of the establishment out there : I still hold out hope for you, hope that you will see the light. You can't fight the light, for it is right. WE represent the majority on this campus, regardless of whether the majority participat s in the political process. McGovern and his cronies are an albatross around your necks. Remove it from your neck or you will forever have a stench about you. It's OK to embrace change. I've got love for you all, but maintaining the status quo is only destroying you. Show some in ividuality and pride in yourself by standing up for what is right. FBK is a machine. Picture it as a car. This car has struck a lot of passersby. But cars break down sooner or later. FBK got totalled, and when cars get totalled, they need to go to the junkyard. So to all of the beholders of the status quo, step a side, the new wave is in town. [Image] Brett Woods - 04/27/98 17:08:52 Are you a UF student/professor?: Student Comments: This page is garbage. It really is. [Image] Figure it OUT - 04/25/98 22:25:19 My Email:Get a clue numb skulls. Are you a UF student/professor?: STUDENT Referred by: My friend with an ailing stomach, nauseated by so much garbage from all sides. Comments: Shame on each and every person who seeks only to tear down the system. Also, let he who is without sin cast the first stone..... For those of you with perverse agendas.. and you know who you are, shame on you. This is not high school anymore, nor is it a place for all you ex-hackers techno geeks. What SG should be is to serve the UF student body. So far, I have not heard from one person that is QUALIFIED or WITHOUT SELF INTEREST who would be an appropriate candidate for any position. Daniel, get a life. IF your gang of computer wiz kids put half as much time into school work as you have here I would probably see your name on the Dean's list. But will that ever happen? Probably not. I wonder how many of the people who are casting stones at Mr. McGovern and FBK were turned down for membership in the past and now acting out in revenge??? Bottom line is that if change is desired by the student body, the only way it will occur is to rid SG of both the ACTION party, AND Charlie's party. They are both politically organized to get for themselves all that they can. But, is not that what global politics is all about? Ask Charlie, he is a PhD student in Political Science. That alone suggests that he is wise to the hooligan plans and policies that have been traditional in politics. It might make each and every student sick, but then again, this is one step away from the real world and real world politics is just as dirty, just as full of political games, incentives, and partisanship. These, of course, are not illegal just causal of extreme indigestion. ACTION is not illegal. Charlie is not illegal. It is politics. Qualifications are the bottom line. Show me a candidate with qualifications, and I will show you a person that has been brought up in an informal political organization like Charlie's group and the ACTION party. That is the only way to get the qualifications that are required to effectively hold office and oversee >$8 million worth of A&S fees. Daniel get over it. It is the game that has ruled the world since feudalism was replaced with some form of political involvement by the people. I just hope for your sake that those of you who condemn these political systems are not political science majors, or you will fail, fail, fail in your classwork. A special guest response by Charles Grapski: While this commentator remains anonymous, I choose to correct some errors. First, tearing down a corrupt "system" is taking positive action toward making things as they ought to be. As for people with "agendas" -- let me reiterate what has publicly been my agenda for years. SG indeed ought to be for the UF student body. And it ought to be teaching a positive lesson about what government and politics OUGHT to be -- not a training ground for corruption. As for the notion that those of us fighting against the FBK system have been turned down by FBK for membership in the past -- get a clue. Most people fighting against FBK would never associate themselves with the organization. I for one never have and never would apply to FBK. If FBK inducted me on its own I would refuse to allow them to place me on their membership list. It would be a dishonor to be involved in such an organization. Now, back to my past and present public agenda -- and the comment about "my party". It is true that I am a PhD candidate in Political Science. What you may not know is that my interest is in establishing democracy. And what you probably do not know is that I am opposed to the concept of political parties. The history on this one is pretty clear -- I founded the Independent Student Coalition -- and through it ran people for office in SG. However, the publicly stated intent was not to be a party seeking the self-interest of its members -- which I oppose -- but to begin a process of change orientated towards establishing a self-governing process aimed at identifying and achieving the common good. Maybe if you just asked before making unsubstantiated comments. Or maybe if you actually paid attention to what has been both said and written in the past. And by the way -- I do condemn these "political systems." And as you noted, I am a political science PhD candidate. Why have I not "failed, failed, failed?" Editor's response: No one wants to "only tear down the system". I want to reform it, to bring it back to the students, where it belongs. As far as "he who is without sin cast the first stone" (ignoring the fact that your insulting signing was a stone, and you have declared yourself a deity) neither I nor any member that I know has played the uncountable dirty tricks that the ruling machine has. Where to begin? A Free keg party to the frat that takes the most vision fliers down, midnight posting of vision/independent fliers by action agents illegally to frame opposing candidates on elections code violations, kickbacks and graft to certain people through the a&s fee fortune, but the list goes on. Get a life? Ad hominem. No logical response to this publication, just personal attacks. "Perverse attacks"? Oh, I see; it is PERVERSION to criticise your own government in a free land. Techno-hacker? No, this WWW site was placed on the internet so these things could be published and shown to all the world. The WWW is means, not an end; it is a way to communicate literally through the pen. But you wouldn't know much about that, would you? If you are so blameless, why did you not even leave your name? Afraid? I thought we are just non-greek wimps who like to order milk at bars? Huh? You stated the fallacy of revenge, "I wonder how many of the people who are casting stones at Mr. McGovern and FBK were turned down for membership in the past and now acting out in revenge???" Guess what? You just subconsciously admitted that THERE IS A SYSTEM THAT EXCLUDES ALL OTHERS WHO ARE NOT "IN" WITH IT. Don't worry about the slip, your therapist will explain it in greater details (like they always must do to you). One more thing: There is no such thing as "Charlie's party". This site was designed before I ever met him or anyone who knew him, and before I spoke to anyone who is a member of the opposition. I am a concerned student, and that is all. Now, why don't YOU get a life? [Image] Dave Halpern - 04/23/98 23:57:49 My Email:bg22446@binghamton.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: No, former student Referred by: Adam Fleischer Comments: I would like to make some other comments about my former involvement at UF. As many of you are aware, I was chairman of the Alliance Party in Fall of 1996. Although I believe that the system is one of the most unethical things I have ever seen, some of he people within the organization are good people who are trying to make a difference in a completely messed up system. Unfortunately, I tried that and it DID NOT WORK. As a fellow Greek, I will argue that it is wrong to exclude just because a person is Greek. As a new student at Binghamton University in upstate NY, things are much different here. Things actually get done, whether win or lose. There is no hostility, as I'm working with my former opponent when I ran for VP. There is no bullshit. As I read the guestbook, I will continue to make comments. Thanks to Fleischer, I now know about this web site. Later guys. [Image] Dave Halpern - 04/23/98 23:47:21 My Email:bg22446@binghamton.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: No, former student Referred by: Adam Fleischer Comments: GO ALL THE WAY!! I'M WITH YOU GUYS IN SPIRIT! Remember, they may fiddle with REAPPORTIONMENT over the summer. [Image] DANNY MILLER - 04/23/98 20:42:02 Are you a UF student/professor?: YES Referred by: SANTA CLAUS Comments: DANNY I THINK THIS PAGE OF YOURS IS A LOAD OF CRAP. I AM A MEMBER OF THE ACTION PARTY AND AM ALSO IN A FRAT HERE AT UF. I DO NOT LIKE HOW YOU ARE TRYING TOP DESTORY UFS REPUTATION. I BET YOU ARE SOME LONELY GEEK WITH NO FRIENDS WHO CANT GET A DATE. YOU SH ULD STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING BECAUSE IT IS WRONG. Editor's response: I THINK THIS ARGUMENT OF YOURS IS A PIECE OF GARBAGE. I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THE INACTION PARTY AND AM ALSO NOT IN A FRATERNITY HERE. I DO NOT LIKE HOW YOU H VE EMBARASSED YOUR OWN BROTHERHOOD AND UNIVERSITY BY POSTING AN IDIOTIC MESSAGE THAT COULD NOT RESULT FROM ANY KIND OF COLLEGE EDUCATION. ARE YOU EVEN IN COLLEGE, SON? IT IS YOUR MACHINE THAT HAS EMBARRASSED THIS UNIVERSITY. IT IS THE MACHINE'S SCANDA S THAT HAVE DISGRACED STUDENT GOVERNMENT. IT IS STUDENT GOVERNMENT THAT HAS DISGRACED STUDENT GOVERNMENT. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WITH SEVERE LACK OF ALPHABETIC CAPITALISATION SKILLS THAT MAKE MESSAGES LOOK STUPID. ARE YOU EVEN REAL? I BET YOU ARE SOMEO E I KNOW WHO IS PLAYING A JOKE, PRETENDING TO BE STUPID. NOBODY COULD BE AS STUPID AS YOU SEEM TO BE. NOT ONE, NOT ONE LOGICAL RESPONSE TO ANYTHING. NOTHING. LONELY AND NO DATES? THAT'S NOT WHAT YOUR BITCH SAID TO ME LAST NIGHT. [Image] Peter Jenkins - 04/23/98 20:39:15 Are you a UF student/professor?: Yes Referred by: Santa Claus Comments: DANNY YOUR PAGE SHOWS COMMENDABLE STUPIDITY.I AMA [sic] MEMBER OF THE ACTION GROUP AND AM ALSO A MEMBER OF A FRAT HERE AT UF. I PERSONALLY WANT TO SAY THAT YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE AND I DONT LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO WITH THIS PAGE OF YOURS. IN FACT I BE YOU ARE SOME SORRY GEEK WITH NO FRIENDS. Editor's response: Your Entry was laughable. The next time you are in another one of your daily drunken stupors, please try and remember to take your @%$%#@@ CAPS LOCK off. It makes you look even stupider than you are. And making yourself look less intelligent than you already are is an accomplishment all by itself. [Image] Stephan Johnson - 04/22/98 17:40:22 My Email:StefanJ@ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: Student Referred by: Danny Davis Comments: Danny your page completely sucks %@#. I cannot believe you could write these things about the Action party when they are obviously a group of morale upstanding individuals. Anyway you keep taking the prozac. I'm just kidding of course. [Image] Alan Davis - 04/21/98 04:28:53 My Email:cicero13@magicnet.net Are you a UF student/professor?: no Referred by: self Comments: wow! [Image] Eric Lasso - 04/20/98 20:56:02 My Email:sgvpres@sg.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: your e-mail Comments: Danny , You really have too much time on your hands. Your facts about Blue Key, SG and the Greek System are inherently wrong. Yes I am in Blue Key and in a fraternity. And yes I believe as do others that the Dorworth/Lasso/Gordon Administration has done a good job. The two are not mutually exclusive. Imagine that with all your time and energy that you spent on this web site you would have applied for a position in SG cabinet. Only then could we all claim that we are trying to make a difference. Editor's response: Mr. Vice President: I understand your public stance; I would do the same if I were you. But different people see different things in different light, and may I just state a few things about your entry? You used the term mutually exclusive when juxtaposing being Florida Blue Key(I am in Blue Key National- mistakingly you think FBK is the original 'blue key') and thinking the Dorworth administration did a good job. This does not make logical sense. . . you should have said 'I am not in a fraternity, but think they did a good job'. That would have made your 'mutually exclusive' term effective. But you are in both FBK and an IFC fraternity, meaning although you personally are known very well for being truthful and honest, you may not be the most objective viewpoint. You are (were) part of the administration. Your leadership in itself was seemed to me to be without the scandal that faced others in the majority. For a more detailed opinion on the year of action in power see http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/library/7971/inaction html it describes various actions taken and promised on the action flier. If i applied for a position in SG cabinet, not being in a fraternity, not knowing anyone in a fraternity, the chances of being selected are slim to none But that is besides the point; certain cabinet directorships should be elected, not appointed. -d.d. [Image] Dan the Man - 04/20/98 17:57:33 My Email:dhmullen@grove.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: Raffy Comments: Good page; hope you get as deep into AG as you are in SG. [Image] Maria - 04/17/98 04:28:51 Are you a UF student/professor?: Neither Referred by: Self Comments: Don't think you can mess with Mr. Davis. He never gives up, and he takes no prisoners. : ) He intends to win, and he usually does. [Image] Anthony Pedicini - 04/14/98 03:57:45 My Email:caesaruf@aol.com Comments: Dan, You have to go and dazzle me again. First I read the senate list, then the hall of shame. WHATS NEXT? OH i know a guest column! Ill talk to you soon. Anthony [Image] kelly kremer - 04/08/98 17:06:05 My Email:kellyk@grove.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: rafella monchek Comments: keep up the great work and keeping people aware! [Image] Raffy M. - 04/08/98 07:54:05 My Email:raffy18@ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: Pick the one that's not a student: Monchek, Davis, Vlcek Referred by: Who doesn't know about this site? Comments: Hello Daniel. It's refreshing to meet a student so... well informed on the issues, Yet not a part of the system. We need more students like you at this University that care enough to dive into the shark tank of Student Government to seek the truth even if only to discover that we lack true democracy. To Mayank (although I can't believe I am dignifying his questioning my existence as a reader and responder to Daniel's page by responding to his comments): You are ignorant to believe that everyone follows s lindly as a sheep through Student Government as you do. Some of us do actually take the time to educate ourselves before we vote. Some of us do visit other students web sites to learn more about the issues at hand rather than just believing what is handed to us on a bright orange paper in the middle of Turlington, or wispered to us by a misinformed "house rep.". Great investigating skills, Daniel! [Image] Deep Throat - 04/07/98 03:43:16 My Email:the_way_i_see_it@hotmail.com Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: Grapski Himself Comments: Well, well, well. It's that time of year again. Time to rip down Vision flyers. Time for the sorority girls to get down on their knees and engage in some suckage. Time for cheap campaign tricks, stuffing ballot boxes, etcetera etcetera. You guessed i : it's SG Presidential Elections! Now that the elite is in power once again, they will continue their tyranny on the third floor. They have NO respect for student organizations on this campus, most notably the Inter-Residence Hall Association, the Bo rd of College Councils (just ask Jim Stanton), National Blue Key Honor Fraternity (the REAL leadership honorary co-founded in 1994 by Charlie Grapski and Raymond V. Plaza), and the list goes on and on. They're condescending and uncooperative, insisting that they get their way. Let's take a brief stroll through recent attempts to snuff out the opposition : threatening to zero fund IRHA when Ray Plaza (former IRHA President) announced that he would run on the Grapski ticket back in '95. Bad-mouthing Greg Cook for being anti-Gree when he was Greek himself. Spreading vicious rumors that Jim Stanton would reduce the Intermurals budget if elected. Even abstention ballots don't count now! Hell, let's give a round of applause to the elite : they could sell shit to a manure company. We bought shit and now we've got it. Here's coming from an experienced veteran of leadership here at UF. Having served in residence hall governments, IRHA, working with BOCC, and knowing a considerable deal about SG, it makes me sick how such a group can claim to be leaders. They don't now the work ethic that real leaders go through, when their residents want to check out a piece of equipment in the middle of the night. Leadership is about self-sacrifice, not self-worship. Leadership is about meritocracy, not aristocracy. Leadership is oing the right thing, not the popular thing. Vision recognizes this ethic. Its members come from all walks of life, but they share one thing in common : a committment to real leadership. Folks like Slossberg, Stanton, Zissimoupholous (sp?), Monchek, Heather Kelley, Bret Taylor, Plaza, Grapski, etc That's leadership. Gook luck to Vision in the future. [Image] Mark Dembinsky - 04/07/98 03:04:12 Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: John McGovern :) Comments: Greeting from IDA (oh I mean IRHA)(speaking as a member not as the organization) I probably would have been another apathetic mindless student if not for the `love' the ACTION party claims for the DORMS ( OH I forgot my PC `residence halls') `For ACTION so loved the IRHA' It has bent IRHA over and fucked it hard : with reapportionment claimed IRHA's accomplishments as its own taken issues we have already started dealing with as their "to do list."' I guess Action is "thinking ahead", yeah preplanning the next fucking of IRHA. I would not doubt a zero funding attempt if it did not mean losing their "accomplishments" for next year. .It then tried winning IRHA's vote with photo ops ACTION must be short for hypocrisy I have love for ALL but VISION is the only party with my respect. VISION has done more then ACTION even claims it will do and has done it all without being in power. VISION truly has something to be proud of not just a line on their resume. In closing, HOLD THE BATTLE LINE BROTHER! MARK DEMBINSKY a non-partisan committed member of the human race looking in from the sidelines at some fucked up shit called ACTION [Image] Bret Marshall - 04/03/98 04:14:51 My Email:rhino750@aol.com Are you a UF student/professor?: student Comments: Keep up your fight against the Action Party, they need to be removed off the face of the earth! [Image] Mike Schmitt - 04/01/98 21:25:22 My URL:http://www.metrolink.net/~schmitt My Email:mschmi02@juno.com Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: my disgust Comments: Thank you for taking the time for organizing the facts and putting together an archive of all the attempts FBK has made to pull the wool over our eyes. They really number so many.... As the elections end and SG fades away as it always seems to after ele tions for another year, we can hope that the few dedicated officials that will take office will make an attempt to pull SG from the realm of the laughable to one that is willing to work for the students. This vision is bleak, although. My outrage on how the corruption affected myself and the rest of the members of my party was the only fuel we were running on in this election, and action/fbk did nothing more than kindle that fire with all the dirty politics they have pulled. What originally had started s a "fuck the action" party turned into something much more meaningful, much more sincere, even if only to hold ourselves to an ideal highe to the scum we were running against. And you haven't heard th last of us. Keep up the great work, I'm willing to contribute if needed (I have very amusing synopsises (sic) of the bullshit we put up with), but I'll be checking in periodically. Thanx. Mike Schmitt HONEST 380-9015 [Image] Tim Sheelen - 04/01/98 06:04:34 My Email:tsheelen@ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: Hell yeah Referred by: Nick Z. - Vision Sen. Comments: KICK ASS WORK Danny Boy! Tim Sheelen - Honest Party V.P. candidate. Nice to meet you. It has been a while since I got myself involved with anything. SG sparked a nerve I guess. I won't let this spark die, though. My goal is to eradicate SG and FBK a it stands and rebuild it and bring them back to the respectable organizations they once were. I am overjoyed that someone would spend as much time as you have in creating this magnificent collage of quotes, articles and opinions. I would like to meet ou sometime and sit down and listen to some of your ideas. I am currently doing some research on the corruption of FBK and SG. Any help would be much appreciated. Once again, great job and keep up the good work. Vote STANTON for treasurer, he sure as ell has my vote. The one thing that Stanton doesn't have that Ian Lane does: Gold Medal in Karate - Pan Am Games. Too bad Jimmy, maybe next year. It's been fun everybody. Keep kickin' ass. P.S. Fuck McGovern [Image] chris geiger - 03/30/98 06:33:27 My URL:http://www.geocities.com/soho/2885 My Email:chris.geiger@pobox.com Are you a UF student/professor?: Yep Referred by: chris Comments: This page is swell. [Image] Nick Zissimopulos, Heather Kelley, Jim Spaeth, Erin Alvarez and the rest of your friends in the Vision Party - 03/30/98 04:49:12 My Email:senatornz@aol.com Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: friends Comments: Love your page. Keep up the good work. I will never stop fighting until the corruption on the third floor has been forever ended. - Nick Z. Damn the man! Keep fighting the good fight, Dan. All of us appreciate your hard work and devotion.- Heather K. Your expertise on this subject is paralleled by few. I just hope Johnny Lucky takes it to heart! - Jim S. This website almost made me pee my pants. New nickname for McGooey--"Landslide". Brainfood. See you on the 3rd floor. Power to the people, Coz. --Erin A. [Image] CaesarUF - 03/29/98 06:33:20 My Email:CaesarUF@aol.com Comments: Dan: WHy did you change Action's wins from 4 to three.....I think i know why but youd better explain.....If you plan on keeping it this way, change the story below it to say three semesters instead of 4. By the way well chat over email about the convention -CaesarUF [Image] Anthony J Pedicini - 03/28/98 06:52:40 My Email:CaesarUF@aol.com Are you a UF student/professor?: 3LS Comments: I love this page. Dan if you could give me a call tomorrow in Melbourne I would like to talk to you. I am sorry i missed you at turrlington i was 15 minutes late getting out of an exam. Anthony [Image] Shawn McCarthy - 03/28/98 01:17:09 My Email:mccarthy@ufl.edu Referred by: you Comments: just got in SG. i like your h-page. about the whole shabeal... only time will tell. [Image] Mayank Jain - 03/27/98 08:24:04 My Email:jain@ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: student Comments: Your work is commendable and your concern for the Univ. of Florida S.G. is also understandable. Most of the points that you have come up with are legitimate and based on facts. But isn't it true that at one point , you yourself wanted to be part of the Gr eek system and the organizations it controls? Maybe this fact has left you bitter and thirsty for revenge! I agree with you on most of your arguments and concerns, but my question is , what is it that you are fighting for ? The upliftment of this university via fare [sic] elections or you are simply trying to satisfy yourself by avenging the greeks by using this merely as a platform ? And whats up with all these other, obviously self written and narcisist remarks in your guestbook ? I think that making fun of the greeks and sick humor like that will not help you in whatever it is that you are trying to accomplish. Anyways best of luck in your pursuit of justice and your webpage is quite impressive !! Editor's response: but 'tis all in good fun, isn't it? [Image] Mike "Loafy" Gossett - 03/22/98 06:04:35 My URL:http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/4337 My Email:Loafymax@aol.com Are you a UF student/professor?: Used to be Referred by: Dan Davis Comments: Dan should be elected president! [Image] Ted Helfrick - 03/20/98 15:58:25 My Email:theodman@ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: student Referred by: D. Davis Comments: Davis, Did you write yourself a little love note???? [Image] Channing Rollo - 03/19/98 03:32:38 My URL:http://grove.ufl.edu/~crollo/home.html My Email:crollo@grove.ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: Yes! Referred by: Florida Blue Key Newsletter "Hot Links" Article :) Comments: Excellent coverage of the scandal we call SG. Keep up the good work. [Image] Anna - 03/18/98 07:07:27 My URL:http://members.aol.com/Nikotai/index.html My Email:Nikotai@aol.com Are you a UF student/professor?: Not Referred by: You baby! Comments: Dearest Danny, You certainly have done a nice job on your site in such a short time. I am impressed. Nice layout and very informative. Anna [Image] Michael J. Procopio - 03/13/98 05:11:29 My Email:michael1@ufl.edu Are you a UF student/professor?: indeed Comments: A very fine online melange of words and ideas paralled by few. [Image] Sign the Guestbook Back to the Home Page [Welcome to GeoCities!] [Image]